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We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. Close w/ TG can be problematic. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. To help get you started with load data we have collected information from what we consider to be a reliable source for easy reference. 4.2 of titegroup over a 124FMJ is my 9mm load. And how are you metering 3.3gr? Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. Great powder, would recommend it to anyone shooting & reloading. Load data for 147g coated bullet with titegroup - 9mm/38 Caliber I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. Powder is generally +/- 0.1 gr as it dropped using a Hornady powder drop on my Dillon xl650(although usually right at the listed charge). This is a flattened spherical powder. He play trumpet in the Junior High Band and I am an honor roll student at St. Pats. The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. Look at the large picture below, you can see, a normal load barely fills the case, its way down in there. 9mm/38 Caliber 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder By looking4reloadingdeals December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber Share Followers 0 Reply to this topic Start new topic 513 Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Hello everyone, I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. Retired LEO/Rangemaster, Glock armorer, pistol instructor, Endowment NRA member. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. As it says on bottle, a little goes a long way.. When I first learned it was long before Algore had invented the net. Thanks guys. This powder is very popular. Don't ask me why the maximum charge for Titegroup is higher with the 125 gn bullets. She has since entered the Open division and has competed all over the country at numerous national level events, including the PRS Finale in 2018. After starting a life and career in Tulsa, she pursued barrel racing until she found 3-Gun in 2009. You say that now. I saw that there, Rusty, but I need data for FMJ, not HP. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. Why? I don`t recall my OAL for either without looking in my load notebook. That's why when I figured out that my previous loads were unsafe I called Berry's to get correct info. Dianna has been highlighted by the NRA in American Warrior, the Washington Post and NRA Women. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Looks like i will test some 4.0 and 4.2 as long as they stay below 1200. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. I havent had a problem yet. Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. With velocities at 1046 to 1119. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads - Load Data I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. and seated them to 1.150" as best as I recall. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Recently, well, a few months back, I loaded a thousand of the X-Treme 124gr PRN for my neighbor. 1.100" Starting Load Grains 3.9 We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. Every match Ive been to that chronic has the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. Jake travels the country shooting, directing precision rifle matches, and teaching precision rifle classes. This is my first time posting a link to a google sheets doc. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. So you are saying you found data specificly for Berry's plated & TG? They are snappy, but fun to shoot. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. Boris_La . We recommend that you use published lead load data from reputable sources. Both Plated round nose and JHP. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. Starting Load Grains 4.9 Velocity (ft/s) 1,124 Pressure 28,800 PSI Maximum Load Grains 5.4 Velocity (ft/s) 1,209 Pressure 33,800 PSI Barrel Length: 4" Case: Winchester Primer: CCI 500, Small Pistol Trim Length: .750" Twist: 1:10" 115 GR. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. My name is Robert Brantley and I have been obsessed with precision rifle since 2007. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. Although her family hobby was horse shows and barrel racing, her father introduced her to USPSA in high school. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. I could manually measure amounts in the middle of the range, but I'd rather use the AutoDisk, which has cavities with volumes corresponding to the edges of the recommended range. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. Like many reloaders I ended up with 6 or 7 different powders for my pistols until I shot 5 rounds from each similar FPS loads from a bench. You are using an out of date browser. Early on, its pointy full-metal-jacket rounds gave the 9x19mm a reputation as a horrible antipersonnel round. I got the adjustable charge bar for rifle loads and tried it out with titegroup and it did not work. There simply isn't much load data for the super-heavy 9mm bullets. In 2016, she plans to lead a delegate of women to Capitol Hill in an effort to give legislators a face to put with gun owners. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. and 8 lb. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. The more inexpensive "competition" powder. I found anything much lower to be too weak. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jell-dog, Mar 14, 2017. I used data for 115gr FMJ because I thought that's what the Berry's bullets were. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. Nuff said. With my setup using the .32 orifice I get 3.5-3.6gr, .34 orifice 3.6-3.8gr and with the .37 orifice 4.1-4.2gr is dispensed. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. Walkalong, that was my guess also, but there are other fast powders listed with 900fps and 950fps loads. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. 2.8 gr. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. 125 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.8 gn - 1100 fps. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Titegroup for 9mm? | Carolina Shooters Forum This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I want to be safe. Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 668 Scottsdale, AZ Posted January 28, 2018 Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono (FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight (gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined JavaScript is disabled. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Only time I used TG in 9mm it was 4.5grs. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. Does it make a difference? An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. Titegroup powder in 9mm - Too hot? | The High Road Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. Ryan still has a passion for hunting, but 3-gun gives Ryan and wife Dianna the opportunity to travel together and compete with and against amazing people. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. BrianEnos.com Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. He is also a noted TV personality, regularly appearing on TV programs Shooting USA. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. Your link has been automatically embedded. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! For 9mm, with Sierra 115 fmj, 4.8gr of Titegroup. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. Obligatory start low and work your way upSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. Load two according to the new data for the 124gr XTP has an OAL 1.140 with a power range of 3.6 to 4.1 grains that would make this unsafe. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Maximum loads from Sierra: 115 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.6 gn - 1100 fps. 3 grains? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. I would like a lighter load for practicenothing too hot. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . Is this not a safe load? Probably saved me some money. 9MM - NATO Reloading This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. Hodgdon Titegroup - NATO Reloading I'm hoping this data may help some others that are looking for some data with Titegroup powder. 115 gr xtreme load/col data? | Northeastshooters.com Forums Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. By 2011, she sold her farm and all of her horses to focus on 3-Gun and the 2nd Amendment. Hodgdon Titegroup Then work up from there. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. Hmm, I thought it was 5ft. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. The desire to know, when, how, and if he should take these shots along with an unquenched thirst for competition, lead Brian to shoot precision rifle events. I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. I sold off all except Titegroup. Nuts accurate. Can't keep enough at the house. JavaScript is disabled. and 8 lb. This section shows you A LOT of information about 9 MM powders and how they compete against each other using the same brass, same bullet, same OAL, same primer, same gun, same day, same conditions..the only thing that is different is the powder. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. It also burns hot, runs hot in your gun. Just dirty as we ever seen and HOT. RCBS 9mm-125-RN-GC 123 TiteGroup 4.4 1045 129 . Many of these are 131-135 PF, which are plausible competition loads. . My M&P and G34 love the 115 and 124s, but the 147s won't group for crap in either gun with any load and I took it up to 3.9 which is pretty hot. JavaScript is disabled. Believe me, I'm not TRYING to stretch or bend any rules. "Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. Phillip has attended all follow-on formal Scout Sniper courses, having graduated with honors and recognized as High Shooter from all. 9mm load for USPSA | Northeastshooters.com Forums 4.2, 1.155 coal will work well. I thought one was supposed to be at least 10 feet away from the chronograph when measuring velocity. All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. I've had good luck with 3.4gr of Titegroup with the 147fmj boolit. It's for practice, not for competition. Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. Makes a difference the JHP will be a little hot for FMJ - assuming you are not making SD rounds. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively.